One & Done a Failure at Duke? Way too Early to Tell in My Opinion (some thoughts)

Brian HoraceGeneral Information, Results/Thoughts3 Comments

There are no shortage of Duke fans who for one reason or another would love for Coach K to abandon his recruiting of one and one players. Some think that Duke recruiting these players devalues in some way what it means to be a Duke student, some think it's not possible to fully grasp the defensive principles that Duke and Coach K tends to want to employ in just one season and that the only benefit Duke is reaping is in terms of hype. Others think that this "experiment" is simply not working in terms of results in the post-season. From strictly a basketball standpoint I disagree completely.

Coaches must adjust to the realities of todays rules and he realities of todays players. Perhaps Duke is a prisoner of sorts of their own success or perhaps the program is just dealing with the reality that Coach K is only going to be around for a finite number of games and seasons. I honestly want the best players regardless of how long they play to be there, and I do not prescribe to the theory that there has been some twist in recruiting logic. There has never been some time where Coach K said that he was going to only recruit players that will be around for a year. He's always recruited the best players...period. That hasn't changed. Despite what we choose to believe. What has changed is Duke's ability to land more of them.

Let's look year by year beginning in 2003. Duke signed Luol Deng, Duke also recruited Lebron James, but we all know how that turned out. Luol ended up being Duke's best player and was only around for a season. Not a player that was expected to go early but nonetheless it happened. 2004 Duke recruits Shaun Livingston but he never played. In 2005 Duke recruited Brandon Wright but he settled on UNC. Duke got Kyrie in 2010, he played 8 games game back but Duke only got to the sweet 16. In 2011 Duke recruited another one and done in Austin Rivers and in 2013 Duke signed Jabari Parker. In that 10 year span to call Duke a one and done school would be a ludicrous statement to make. They recruited some, signed a few and those players were surrounded with older talent.

Has Duke gotten worse in recent years defensively, undoubtedly but it's hard to truly point the finger at one and done players as the reason for Duke's defensive decline. You could perhaps make the argument for the type of player being recruited is the reason but again even with Duke's early exits the one and done players they've had were surrounded by multi-year players. So perhaps its an offensive mindset of players coming in? I'm not sure I have the answer there.

The truth of the matter is that there have only been 3 years that Duke has signed multiple one and done players obviously the first resulted in a championship. The second, the class featuring Jayson Tatum, Harry Giles & Frank Jackson was riddled with multiple injuries. Hardly a year to use as a use case. The third is this year and while Duke is not a great defensive team, they have made strides, we'll have to judge them in March.

When people say it's not working to that I say, "what are you even talking about?" When you measure the success of before and after you cannot definitely say that it's resulted in less post season success - because it hasn't been done at Duke on a measurable scale.

Defensive Eff. Rank
Post Season
One & Done
2002-200326-711-515NCAA Sweet Sixteen  None
2003-200431-613-33 NCAA Final FourLuol Deng
2004-200527-611-52NCAA Sweet Sixteen  None
2005-200632-414-216NCAA Sweet Sixteen  None
2006-200722-118-86 NCAA Round 64None
2007-200828-613-37  NCAA Round of 32None
2008-200930-711-528NCAA Sweet Sixteen   None
2009-201035-513-35 National ChampionsNone
2010-201132-513-39NCAA Sweet Sixteen  Kyrie Irving
2011-201227-713-379 NCAA Round 64Austin Rivers
2012-201330-614-426 NCAA Elite EightNone
2013-201426-913-586 NCAA Round 64Jabari Parker
2014-201535-415-311National ChampionsJahlil Okafor, Tyus Jones*, Justise Winslow*
2015-201625-1111-786NCAA Sweet Sixteen Brandon Ingram
2016-201728-911-747 NCAA Round of 32Jayson Tatum, Harry Giles, Frank Jackson*
* not necessarily a sure fire one and done

3 Comments on “One & Done a Failure at Duke? Way too Early to Tell in My Opinion (some thoughts)”

  1. K and duke need to do what’s best for the program. He has always recruited the best players. It’s only lately that he has started getting more potential 1 year guys in abundance.

    Even in 2014, okafor was the only one considered 1 and done. Justise and Jones played their way into the NBA draft 1st round. Last year was the first year that K got multiple potential 1 year kids in the same year. And only tatum and giles were considered 1 and done.

    People need to cut it out and tell the story properly.

  2. You know the haters always want to spin it, to slander.

    The NBA could and probably will soon, correct the age rule. K and company will adapt, and keep on winning big. Which is the REAL duke mantra. Adapt and thrive.

    I really want duke to win it all this year and next. Not only because I’m die hard and thirsty for chips, but because I want K to stick it hard to the haters.

    If Alabama and the patriots can, duke is on deck.

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